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These free-wheeling, often exhilarating dialogues—which grew out of the acclaimed Carnegie Hall Talks—are an exchange between two of the most prominent figures in contemporary culture: Daniel Barenboim, internationally renowned conductor and pianist, and Edward W. Said, eminent li***ry critic and impassioned commentator on the Middle East. Barenboim is an Argentinian-Israeli and Said a Palestinian-American; they are also close friends.

As they range across music, li***ture, and society, they open up many fields of inquiry: the importance of a sense of place; music as a defiance of silence; the legacies of artists from Mozart and Beethoven to Dickens and Adorno; Wagner’s anti-Semitism; and the need for “artistic soluti***” to the predicament of the Middle East—something they both witnessed when they brought young Arab and Israeli musicians together. Erudite, intimate, thoughtful and spontaneous, Parallels and Paradoxes is a virtuosic collaboration.

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巴：政客和艺术家究竟有什么区别？如果掌握了妥协的艺术，发现各方能够妥协的领域，尽量使他们彼此靠近，并希望依靠正确的协议和正好的时间，使他们化解争端。能够这样做，政客就会做得很好，并且给人们带来好处。而艺术家的表现力正好在于他拒绝任何妥协——他需要有勇气。

萨：政客是修补者。比起漫长的过程，他们对结果更感兴趣。他们想做的就是跨到下一个位置，并且说：“看看我们都做了些什么”；然而对一个知识分子或者艺术家来说，最重要的是让事情达到理想，没有任何妥协。你有想做的事情，你所关心的并不是取得了一点点的进步来获取少许的安慰，而这是政客们所需要的。问题是：有可能缩小两者的差距吗？这是个难题：政客的方法是否可以向艺术家和知识分子敞开呢？

巴：“政治正确”这个词同时地意味着哲学上的不正确，因为它意味首妥协……

萨：意味着妥协和服从。

让你兴奋的不是你可以在公众面前演出，不是演出前后获得的掌声，更不是你可以穿着特殊的衣服走上舞台。让你兴奋的完完全全是因为你可以置身于一个曲目中，不受打扰，心无旁骛地将她从头到尾演奏完毕。对我来说，生命中再没有可与之相比的了。

你如果想诉说些很个人的东西，肯定会有人赞同你，有人反对你。我想，只有那些很平庸的东西才能够得到一致的反馈。今天，有争议竟然成为一句骂人的话，你知道，“他是个有争议的人。”

每个社会内部都有公平与不公平，无知与博学，自由与***的矛盾。关键是，对一方或者另一方的支持，不能因为别人告诉你要这么做，而是要自己谨慎地选择，对问题的所有方面进性公平且公允的判断。教育的目的不在于积累事实，或者记住“正确”的答案，而在于学会自己***地用批评的眼光去思考。

一方面，音乐为人们提供了逃避生活的可能性，而另一方面，音乐能够比其他学科更使人们了解人生。音乐说：“对不起。这就是人生。”

很多德国人对移民的敌意，在我看来，是因为他们以前的两三代德国人并没有充分理解移民的意义。他们并没有理解到人是可以同时拥有两种以上的身份的，有着异国背景、异国习惯和异国文化的人，可以成为这个国家的一部分，而并不威胁到他们作为德国人的身份。

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These free-wheeling, often exhilarating dialogues—which grew out of the acclaimed Carnegie Hall Talks—are an exchange between two of the most prominent figures in contemporary culture: Daniel Barenboim, internationally renowned conductor and pianist, and Edward W. Said, eminent li***ry critic and impassioned commentator on the Middle East. Barenboim is an Argentinian-Israeli and Said a Palestinian-American; they are also close friends.

As they range across music, li***ture, and society, they open up many fields of inquiry: the importance of a sense of place; music as a defiance of silence; the legacies of artists from Mozart and Beethoven to Dickens and Adorno; Wagner’s anti-Semitism; and the need for “artistic soluti***” to the predicament of the Middle East—something they both witnessed when they brought young Arab and Israeli musicians together. Erudite, intimate, thoughtful and spontaneous, Parallels and Paradoxes is a virtuosic collaboration.